tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7044166228612663288.post216673839268716885..comments2024-03-01T11:18:22.535-05:00Comments on Inside Nancy's Noodle: Misrepresenting JesusNancyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05894799922341495196noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7044166228612663288.post-34285221254493248532009-09-15T12:04:20.157-04:002009-09-15T12:04:20.157-04:00Hey Nancy. I linked this post to my blog. Hope to...Hey Nancy. I linked this post to my blog. Hope to send some readers your way. I thought the statistics were sobering, indeed.Rev. David Eckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01430483990601996345noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7044166228612663288.post-76938573554190807642009-09-13T16:49:49.893-04:002009-09-13T16:49:49.893-04:00Joe, You need to start your own blog, dear.Joe, You need to start your own blog, dear.Nancyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05894799922341495196noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7044166228612663288.post-51707197798322243292009-09-12T15:14:13.470-04:002009-09-12T15:14:13.470-04:00Hello Nancy's Noodle!
I really liked Joan'...Hello Nancy's Noodle!<br /><br />I really liked Joan's FB note, too. She's always been the one to ask the hard questions, as long as I've known her. Just like you, you trouble maker. You think, therefore, you're dangerous.<br /><br />Of course, you probably have a pretty good idea where I come down on the whole issue of the Church and its place in our current reality. Today I seem to be focusing on the Eucharist as the canary in the coal mine. <br /><br />I remember reading in seminary about whether the Church is a Real Presence or whether it is a symbolic presence -- imaging the Holy Meal. I have to say that the Lutheran Presence (Church and Meal) is a theological presence, just the way it wants it, it seems. It's so gorged on its theology it can't even move. It is an SYMBOLIC presence where the communicant has to think about what they're eating and drinking or they're damned. It isn't a Real Presence. It's a Cerebral Presence. "The denigration of the imagination at the instigation of the Reformation".<br /><br />The presence I wanted from Church was a Fresh- Baked-Loaf-of-Bread-Presence: straight from the oven warm, nourishing, appetizing, satisfying, healthy, homey eating with Jesus and each other breaking the space/time barrier. <br /><br />What I got was a flat, stale, imprinted, tasteless, cold, unappetizing, uniformly produced, representation of what a living spirituality might be.<br /><br />I ALWAYS went back to Hebrews 5 and was ALWAYS slapped in the face at how debate has replaced counsel, gainsay has replaced dialog, endless rehashing of hot topics (gays, evolution, abortion, the Bible, immaculate conception, physical resurrection, blah blah blah) has replaced growth in spirit, sentimentality has replaced living spirituality, anecdotal three point sermons have replaced visceral retelling of a story that could and should always be new and recognizable in our own stories.<br /><br />The Church has to die, Nancy. It has to die just like Jesus died. It has to sacrifice itself as the thing (like Jesus) that no one understands and every uses to their own gain. It has to die and utter it's seven last words: "WE NEVER DID IT THAT WAY BEFORE". That is it's only hope. It can't be a fake death or an iconic death. It has to be a Real Death: close the doors, fire the clergy, dismiss the laity and we have to be the ones to nail it up. That's the only answer. Then the vigil must be held. Maybe it'll rise. Maybe it won't. That's why I had to pull the plug on my part in it. Not to save it. It needs to die. I mean, really die.<br /><br />Jesus has been misrepsented from the time he was conceived until now. No one has ever understood him because their projections got in the way. He would never settle for anyone's version of him. The authentic person can never be defined or imitated. The authentic person is a process.<br /><br />Church doesn't like process. It likes committees and solutions. Surprisingly, the answer has nothing to do with renewed Ministy Policies or memorializations. It has everything to do with letting it go saying, "It's finished."<br /><br />I recommend anything by Jacques Ellul and a viewing of the full version of Bernstein's "MASS".Joehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15403278509574184860noreply@blogger.com